Nosodes

[Dr. Jeff]

We see quite a few vets routinely giving nosodes after vaccines, with which practice I am not comfortable. But it has been brought to my attention that some are also using nosodes on lieu of vaccination – and that these doses are resulting in high titers for the representative diseases! This would mean, then, that the body’s response to the nosode includes a physical involvement of the immune system, as part of the secondary response.

Would you comment on the “authenticity” of the immunity formed in this fashion? Would, for instance, such a titer for rabies, in response to a dose of Lyssin, be as acceptable as any naturally environmentally acquired one? Have you any experience with forming immunity thusly?

My own preference is always for natural immunity acquired by a healthy, fully-functioning system, but some may need a “paper immunity”.

Ginny

 

[Dr. Jeff]

Great question Ginny. Nosode use does NOT cause a titer. I would love to see any documentation of this. The few studies that scientifically studied this question are pretty clear about this. The titers of unvaccinated animals taking nosodes result from natural exposure.

Nosodes confer protection either by temporarily filling the susceptibility of the infectious disease or by acting as curative remedies. The latter case however is typically not the case when nosodes are used routinely. <a href="https://www.homevet.com/do-i-really-need-to-vaccinate-my-pet-every-year/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Click here</a> for an article by Dr. Susan Wynn (who coauthored one of the studies I mentioned) also provides some insight.

HTH.

Dr. Jeff

 

[Dr. Christina]

What happens, Ginny, to "resulting in high titers for the representative diseases! " is that the nosodes may be protecting the animal (especially young, unexposed ones) from developing symptoms if given after exposure. The titer is from natural exposure.

Dr. Hamilton, Dr. Loops and I put together the first protocol for protection using nosodes in the late 1980s, informed some by Dr. Chris Day's experience and Kennel Cough study from 1985. We did not really understand homeopathic principles very well at that time and were trying to use remedies in lieu of vaccines.

No longer recommended: We suggested a 30c of parvo alternating with 30c of distemperinum weekly for 4 weeks, then one dose of 200c of each, then at 6 months to give one dose of !M.

While this did work, it does not at all fit the successful usage of nosodes. A nosode is a remedy made from diseased tissue (blood, diarrhea, urine, etc). Several of us paid for Hahnemann Pharmacy to hand succuss the infectious diseases seen in dogs and cats from 6c (or maybe it was 6x) from Ainsworth Pharmacy in England.

Ginny, you probably understand this better now than we did back then. If an animal is exposed to an infectious illness AND is sensitive to that vibration, the animal's vital force may resonate with a nosode. I have often seen breeders who cam home from a show, then puppies began to show signs of parvo. Giving one dose (usually of a 200c) to all who were not ill seems to prevent overt illness. These pups would then have great titers, but not from the nosode itself.

More later.

 

[Dr. Jeff]

Tomorrow (6/3/19) during our weekly webinar, we'll be discussing what is currently known and recommended for Lyme prevention, diagnosis and management.

Much of this info. is also in your Lyme course (log in first at the main site to access this link).

The conventional piece was summarized in this client handout which is in your HMDM research folder.

Veterinary infectious disease specialists detail their recommendations in this summary from their "state of the art" summary which is also in your HMDM research folder (and the course).

However, Monday's session is not just about Lyme.

We'll be discussing strategies and tools, like nosodes and titer testing, to use to prevent and manage other tick-borne diseases and other potential pathogens.