Charlie & His Worms

kristen_acri

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I was able to take a few worms to the vet today. She said they look like tape worms. I took a stool sample in yesterday which was negative for parasites eggs. Charlie doesn't have fleas. The vet said he had them at some point. Are there other ways to get tape worms?

Her recommendation was to give him a praziquantel injection. I couldn't find a lot of info on this medication, enough though to say I'm not sure I want to use it.

Will the Verm-X products get rid of the worms? They're available now from Amazon. Charlie has lost four pounds.

Thanks!

Kristen
 

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Hiya Kristen-

Great question!

Supplements like Verm-X can indeed help improve Charlie's intestinal immunity, his microbiome and terrain and get rid of worms.

Are these the ingredients of the product you have?

Brown Rice, Dried Poultry, Beet Pulp, Poultry Fat, Verm-X (Cinnamon, Garlic, Thyme, Peppermint, Fennel, Cleavers, Nettles, Slippery Elm, Quassia, Cayenne), Potato, Potato Starch, Brewers Yeast, Chicken Stock, Dried Seaweed, Salmon Oil, Vitamins & Minerals, Prebiotic FOS, MOS, Green Tea. Analysis: Protein 22%, Oil12%, Ash 6%, Fibre 3%

If so, they look fine overall and yes, I would use them before chemicals as long as Charlie's BEAM is normal.

If any part of his BEAM is decreased, then because of his weight loss, I would strongly consider the praziquantel. It's relatively safe, and could help him regain the weight faster than Verm-X.
 

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Thank you @Dr. Jeff -- this helps with my HMDM. Charlie's BEAM is not normal and has changed in a negative direction since I adopted him. However, I think what I observe now is his true BEAM. During the first month here, he seemed better than how he appears now. I believe looking 'better' was part of his adjustment to all of the changes he went through from surrender to adoption over a two month period.

Regarding Verm-X, the ingredients you've listed are for the Verm-X dog treats. Here are the ingredients for the Verm-X liquid that I would use:

Cinnamon, Garlic, Common Thyme, Peppermint, Fennel, Cleavers, Nettle, Slippery Elm, Quassia, Elecampane.

Thanks again!

Kristen
 

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These also are fine to use (at the recommended doses).
 

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Dogs and cats get tapeworms from fleas, which are the intermediate host.
The head of the tapeworm embeds in the intestinal wall and a chain of segments with eggs inside them is connected to the head. This is why you may see the larvae (look like little grains of rice) but no eggs will show in the stool - they are all inside the segment.

Tapes can cause weight loss, slowly, but in general do not need to be quickly eliminated like whips or hooks.

I would use Para-outta-site flower essence for 2 months along with and after the vermX treatment.

One client used just this flower essence. After 4 weeks one dog passed 4 cups of tapes (60# dog) and 2 weeks later the second dog passed a cup or so. I think it really cleans out residual worms by shifting the energy pattern of the dog.

Of course, the right homeopathic medicine will also shift the energy pattern to eliminate worms as well as resolve other symptoms.

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kristen_acri

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Also, mice and other rodents are intermediate hosts for tapeworms:

Thanks @Dr. Jeff -- I looked at this resource when reading the other thread about hookworms. It's a little confusing because the info on tapeworms says dogs don't lose weight. Charlie has lost weight although it could be for other reasons. How I would love for things to be black and white!

Charlie got his injection for the worms on Tuesday. I wasn't able to go into the vet's office with him. They gave him the shot in the lobby so I could stand outside and watch and he could see me. He also gained a 20 ounces.

Thanks again!

Kristen
 

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