How did Dogs Bobi and Bluey live to be around 30 yrs old??

[SheriS]

Hi All,
I will be leaving this beautiful, supportive and amazingly informative community for a while due to Fibi's passing.
Before I leave, I'd like some clarity on how in the world these two dogs lived to the ripe ages they did?
We are accustomed to saying 17 or 18 is a ripe old age.
Thanks for any insights!
PS- I didn't know the best place to post this.

 

[Dr. Christina]

You will be missed, Sheri. If you need some support, Dalma and others, and the chaplaincy program have practitioners who can make this time easier.

Great question as to why some animals and people live long lives and others die young. And pondering this often leads people to needlessly feel guilty of their choices.

Think of a bell shaped curve. There are the majority, and there are the outliers. for each individual, given our perspective, we may give a reason for their short or long lives.

My friend's mom just died, 2 months shy of 102 and she was mobile (with help) and mentally completely clear and sharp. Her daughter would say it was the organic food, ballroom dancing, exercising, etc. Yet we all know people who smoked, drank, led stressful lives (like george burns with his cigar) who lived to 100 or more.

We also know ones who meditate, eat well (whatever that means) or at least mindfully, got cancer at 30 and died. There is so little we know about how the world/universe works. There is no one right answer. It depends.

We hear that in the 70s, cancer, cushings disease, hyperthyroidism, etc, was very rare and now it is common.

One cat blogger claimed cats must eat dry food free choice because in the wild they nibble all day on their kill or on insects. When asked by me, she said her cats generally lived to 20-23 (that was in the 90s or 00s).

The man in Austin Texas had a cat (verified) live to 38 and at the time of death, the other cat in the house was 34. He fed kibble, turkey bacon, eggs, a little red wine and coffee!!.

Gail Pope, for me, is the expert in this area of longevity, and I suspect she would say it just depends. She adopted cats 16 and older (had 90 in the house at one time) and gave a home until they died. One lived to 34 (came in at 22), others to late 20s, others died shortly after arrival and everything in between. Their lifestyle is similar to what we teach at HA!.

Right now I am dog sitting a white german shepherd for 5 weeks. His teeth are pearly white, he sheds a lot, he is well behaved, no anxiety, only mild nervousness with july 4 noises, obeys us new humans in his life fairly well, runs full tilt, trots like a Lipizzaner, barks some and will stop. I thought he was about 3 or 4. He is 10! He is on kibble and I would guess vaccinated, etc. His family does grow a lot of their food and take him bike riding for miles every week. They did say I could feed some people food, so I am doing a bit. No change in shedding yet.

Bobi was fed fresh food, lived in Portugal which has much lower toxins than the US, yet I wonder at the age of other dogs there. Bluey ate human food and lived in Australia. Bramble was a vegetarian and lived in the UK. These are the ones at the upper end of the bell shaped curve.

What does this teach us?

• It is possible for individuals, of any species to live longer that we would suppose.
• We can take actions that we think could have them live long, yet know that each individual can be anywhere on that bell curve.
• Live and love in the moment. We do not know what their life/soul journey is, so enjoy the now.
• There is no right or wrong answer.
• Some choices seem to make more sense and do seem to be present in many of the healthy dogs and cats - appropriate attention, mental and physical stimulation, clean food and environment (this helps the planet too), etc. All we discuss.

Bless you Sheri, for asking the question so I could philosophize a bit. Most importantly, I want people to just enjoy life and their animals and explore new possibilities without thinking anything is the holy grail.

Dr. Christina

 

[Dr. Jeff]

Hey Sheri!

due to Fibi's passing.

I'm so sorry to hear that Fibi has transitioned from her body. However, I am super glad that her spirit/energy is now free to fly. And I am very grateful for the lessons she has shared with us along the way.

Christina gave a wonderful reply to your very, very important question.

My own reply is really just one word.

Susceptibility.

In homeopathic and energetic terms, we can think of this as being the opposite of resilience.

The greater the susceptibility, the greater the chance of being harmed by a food, medication, emotion, etc. Homeopaths talk about having "morbid" susceptibility as decreasing health span and increasing dis-eases.

There is inherited susceptibility, and the much greater effect of the environmental effects of what we do to increase or decrease that susceptibility.

The Happiness Protocol, Therapeutic Sniff Walks, fresh and varied food, exercise, etc., all decrease susceptibility (and increase resilience) by improving energetic balance.

One might say that these things help keep all animals in tip T.O.P shape so they are more likely to live longer.

Susceptibility is a crucial yet rarely discussed topic. In fact, it is one of the three main sections of my upcoming "Path to Pet Wellness" book:

Book Waitlist - Holistic Actions!

www.holisticactions.com

The first twenty pages are available to anyone who registers on this page. They begin to lay out the roadmap that helps pet parents decrease susceptibility.

Also, here's a bit more about the Terrain Optimizing Protocol (T.O.P) that you may have heard about during your time with us:

A Way To Connect Modern Veterinary Medicine And Ancient Wisdom: An Introduction To Terrain Theory - Holistic Actions!

www.holisticactions.com

I'll be sorry to see you go and will miss our monthly calls and your "lightning round" questions.

I hope to see you soon!

 

[SheriS]

Thank you both so very much for your insights.
I've been listening to animal communicators on You Tube and have heard that our animal companions are here to help us. I know I've missed some Monday night calls so this was probably talked about in some way/s. One in particular said that the animal plans their death and all of the details. That they are here to help our souls grow and when their work is done, they leave. She includes tragic deaths in this statement.
So, I wonder if these specifics have come up in Holistic Actions talks. This particular pet communicator/psychic is quite popular and has been around for a while on social media. I'm perplexed by it and would welcome your insights.
I absolutley will be preordering your book Dr. Jeff! And I too, will miss our lightening round monthlys!

 

[SheriS]

Just in case I wasn't clear, there IS a question in my comment above but it's a bit hidden...
Can you offer insights on the animal communicator's claims pls (when time permits)?

 

[Dr. Jeff]

they are here to help our souls grow and when their work is done, they leave

Yes, I intuitively agree. Hana Makinen, Monique Brignoni, Barbara Shore, Linda Bender, Eleni Gkikakis and others mentioned this during the webinars.

If I may ask Sheri, which video did you watch on YouTube that you wonder about?

 

[SheriS]

Yes, I intuitively agree. Hana Makinen, Monique Brignoni, Barbara Shore, Linda Bender, Eleni Gkikakis and others mentioned this during the webinars.

If I may ask Sheri, which video did you watch on YouTube that you wonder about?

Her name is Danielle MacKinnon. She has many videos on the topic. A lot of her videos are basically news to me!

 

[Dr. Jeff]

news to me!

Like what?

 

[SheriS]

That Fibi planned her passing. That our animal companions are trying to get our attention after they're gone. That they are sending us messages and things like this.
It boggles my mind that an animal will plan to have a tragic death and that their are reasons why they plan it this way. I have a lot to understand here. Do you believe this? Is Reggie sending you messages?

 

[Dr. Jeff]

It boggles my mind that an animal will plan to have a tragic death and that their are reasons why they plan it this way. I have a lot to understand here. Do you believe this?

Yes, I do know that we continue to receive messages from our animals after they have passed.

Archie guided me to the completion of the Path to Pet Wellness book that he had written. And he guided me very specifically to Maya (I had met her and chosen not to adopt her, but then, during meditation, Archie said that Maya should come to live with us- so she did).

No, I do not think they die tragically by their design. They die the way they were meant to die. However, WE may interpret it as tragic, premature, or...

 

[SheriS]

That's beautiful Jeff. When you say Archie said Maya should come and live with you, was it human words you heard or did you ask and then see images or hear his bark or smell him or something that reminded you of him?
Also, how do animals know such human details, such as how to guide you with your book or other human- thought related matters? They seem unaware of such matters while alive...
When you say they die the way they are meant to die, does this mean that they were/are "meant" to sometimes be killed by a car, or other tragic scenario? Is this divinely planned?
What about factory farmed animals or animals that are brutally tested on? Is all of this planned or is it becasue humans have free will that divine intervention can be overrode?

 

[Dr. Jeff]

OMG Sheri, what excellent and deep questions!
I'll do my best to reply and someone like Hana, Monique or Donna are probably more eloquent about this. And they all have archived HA! webinars as well as full interviews during the 202 Sacred Paws summit (which is in the HA! member area and is available to others for a 2-week viewing):

PPVS summit intro

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1. Not human words. Thoughts and feelings during my meditation.

2. Yes, not the kind of guidance you'd expect from a thought and information-focused person. Rather, an energetic, gentle nudge to act (or write) in a certain way.

3. Yes. Even tragic deaths such as being hit by a car are part of their soul contract. And even tho dying may be inevitable, that doesn't mean that we don't act in a way to preserve love, joy, and life. For example we can minimize the chance of a car accident by not allowing them to run in the road. However, it's still all part of our soul contracts.

4. Factory-farmed animals have been deprived of the freedom that would allow them to live their best lives. Yes, the mind often overrules the heart.

IMHO that's wht it is so, so important to listen to those quiet murmurings of the heart. They are real and powerful.