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Cat itching help - not fleas or food allergy?

MariaS

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  1. Carmel - cat
  2. 12
  3. Female
  4. Neutered
  5. Maine Coon
  6. 9-10 pounds
  7. B - Behavior - good, loving, cuddles with me and sleeps with me often, gentle except when she thinks we’re playing. She does itch, licks her chest/paws/legs a lot & nibbles. Chews paws. I have seen her recently eat rodents that were dead for several hours (worries me a little - caught night before and she leaves it and then eats it next day when it’s been sitting out in the sun and has flies on it). She sneezes sometimes. E - Energy - good, highly active, goes outside for several hours, sleeps well. I will play with her with catnip and toys and she’s like a kitten. But playing with a toy triggers her to itch a lot. A - Appetite - good, normally eats really well. We give her our food and she’ll still even hunt to eat more. The only thing is she doesn’t seem to like the TCfeline with the boneless meat and egg yolks. I’ve tried various proteins - pork, etc and she’ll eat it okay at first but then doesn’t want to eat it and I notice she doesn’t eat as much. Same with Viva Raw, she just stopped wanting to eat it but seemed to love it at first. She loves every flavor of Primal nuggets though and likes Steve’s Quest and Nulo cans. I thought maybe it’s the egg york for a food sensitivity…but I’ve also tried making the TCfeline mix without egg yolks and I don’t think it was any different. She also hunts a lot - mice and moles, sometimes chipmunks. M - Mood - very sweet, calm, purrs loudly, rubs on us, happy mainly but does get frustrated with the itching. I’ll hear her do those "huffs," like she breathes out her nose.
  8. Raw food mainly
  9. No more vaccines. Been 1-2 years since she’s had one and won’t be doing more. Not on any medication.
  10. Primary problem is itching, energetic imbalance. She did itch a little last summer but mainly it’s been this year, around March when I started trying to figure it out because she was getting scabs. After months, I noticed she wasn’t just cleaning - it was excessive itching and licking, and scabs on her head/neck weren’t just from ticks or other parasites. (Have never seen red water or dried blood from flea dirt.) But I did notice some itching in the winter as well (last Dec-Feb of this year).
  11. I have noticed she can be itchier when she comes in late at night which is why I started thinking it was fleas. But that has not been consistent. The itching varies but definitely when she’s excited she itches/licks herself more. A lot of times it’s random. She’ll come in the room and itch, and I worry.
  12. No diagnostic work has been done.
  13. Current and previous treatment: In March-April of this year, I did try Dr. Andrew’s bioactive Quercetin for a month because I was thinking it was a food allergy, but it didn’t seem to do anything. She had various scabs on her head/neck/chin that were like dry skin and flaky. Then she was getting ticks so I started using Flea-Ex spray every morning (works on ticks too) before she goes out because scabs were also left from ticks. That did help actually prevent ticks and soothe the skin I think, but it was a pain to do because she would hiss sometimes. Her scabs would go away using that consistently but itching continued. 3-4 weeks ago I used beneficial nematodes (HB+SC+SF) all over the lawn so don't have to worry about it as much. (There are different species of nematodes that target certain parasites.) I now sometimes use an ACV spray since I ran out of the other topical spray. Nothing has totally gotten rid of the scabs/itching or kept it from coming back. I only apply the spray on my hand and rub some on her. I did notice her coat had gotten quite dull with the issue she's been having and combing her often has helped with that a lot (flea comb). She's all silky now. She was also getting some clumps here and there by the base of her tail. That seems to not be a problem anymore. Have tried for the past week using Psorinum 30c daily (again I thought it was fleas) so may stop using that. I have noticed ticks are not attaching to her anymore, nor am I seeing them on myself after going outside. I would just step outside and have one crawling on me. Not sure if it's just the change in season now that it's July.
  14. Other health concerns: Not really a concern but she prefers to go to the bathroom outside so unfortunately I can’t check her pee & poop. She rarely uses the litter box. She did pee in it recently which was good but haven’t seen her poop in several months. Hopefully that’s all good…(I’ve tried changing the litter and it doesn’t make a difference.)
**Dr. Christina helped me realize on my welcome call that it is NOT fleas. I had used beneficial nematodes on the yard and thought it didn’t do anything, but that’s because fleas weren’t the issue! It’s been very confusing 😂 I don't think it was at all necessary to do the nematodes.

I am wondering which skin article I need to read @Dr. Christina? The skin section has several links. And the RescueRemedy - is that just to be applied topically or put in her food? Thank you for your help!

@Dr. Jeff , @Dr. Christina , @Dr. Sara do you have any thoughts/advice please
 
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Hey Maria!
But playing with a toy triggers her to itch a lot
Cool! Where does she focus her itch (and is it scratching, licking, nibbling, etc.)?

around March when I started trying to figure it out because she was getting scabs. After months, I noticed she wasn’t just cleaning
Yes! This sounds like the start of her "miliary dermatitis" (which is an artificial vet label and description of the symptom).

notice some itching in the winter as well (last Dec-Feb of this year).
Are you in a warmer climate? Or does winter get pretty cold where you are?


past week using Psorinum 30c daily (again I thought it was fleas) so may stop using that
Yes, it's a good idea to stop.

RescueRemedy - is that just to be applied topically or put in her food?
Great question! You can use it both ways, massaged into her skin, as a spray, etc.
 

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Hi @Dr. Jeff and thank you for your responses! :)
Cool! Where does she focus her itch (and is it scratching, licking, nibbling, etc.)?
It is a mix of all of those in general - licking, nibbling her body and scratching her head/neck with her feet. When playing, it's mainly licking a lot on her paws, legs, chest. Some paw chewing too I think. I know I see some flakiness on her toe beans that I think she picks out with her teeth. It seems like she itches no matter what though. Tonight she came in late and she was purring, then started licking and scratching again all over. So the itching is a good thing? I'm praising her for it which is different!

Are you in a warmer climate? Or does winter get pretty cold where you are?
Winter gets pretty cold, I'm in Maine. It was milder than other years but still quite cold. But she still goes out in the snow and everything. She's an adventurer.

That was a funny video, thanks for sharing! So basically the itching isn't something to worry about and it's not helpful to worry? Is this in any case? I know it's satire.

Great question! You can use it both ways, massaged into her skin, as a spray, etc.
Okay, I just picked some up and put 4 drops in a cup like @Dr. Christina mentioned. I put some on her. She seemed excited about it, was happy when I came home with it. I had a lot left in a glass so I put it in a container because it has cat hair in it from taking more in my hand. There was something about taking a sip but I missed that. So I'm the one who should take a sip of it, and only apply to Carmel topically? I did write down using for 1 week. Is that daily - just once a day? I think those 4 drops in the water will last awhile. I hope it's okay that I touched the end of the dropper — it was hard to take off the plastic seal. Does it always have to be diluted? Update: Second day and she was purring when I put the RescueRemedy on. She actually let me get some on her paws 😸 I'm very gentle and intentional with it.

So how would I know if it's a food allergy/sensitivity? I started trying Viva Raw in October and then another order in December of last year but haven't gotten any more since, so I don't think that was it but could have aggravated something. Then I started using TCfeline in February of this year and been using it for some months, rotating with other stuff.
 
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So the itching is a good thing?
Yes!
I'm praising her for it which is different!
Great idea! And every time she itches maybe tell her how much you love her her pet her in a way that gets her purring.

So basically the itching isn't something to worry about and it's not helpful to worry? Is this in any case?
Exactly right! Any form or exteriorization like itching, eye and nose discharges, skin eruptions, etc. can be a sign of her body trying to heal.

Yes, symptoms are really just signposts that help show us that there is an internal imbalance. All symptoms are clues and are good things in the bigger picture of wellness, quality of life and inner balance.

Symptoms are a reflection of energy flow in the body. The smoother the flow, the fewer the abnormal symptoms.

Love helps smooth the flow and increases mitochondrial metabolism and cellular energy production.

Fear, worry, anxiety, etc. do just the opposite.

Adopting a loving and re-growth mindset is super important. 😍 😻

But this can be especially difficult when we are thrust into a fixed mindset and worry about symptoms, dis-eases (imbalances) and diagnoses.
 

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Great idea! And every time she itches maybe tell her how much you love her her pet her in a way that gets her purring.
Got it, I am doing that now 😺 She has been purring. I am curious if this ends up decreasing the itching? Because she won’t really go at it as much when I do. But I know the itching is good…it is a very interesting concept I’m not used to. Eventually the itching would just go away when she is healed, right? Because the energy flow would be all smooth?
Exactly right! Any form or exteriorization like itching, eye and nose discharges, skin eruptions, etc. can be a sign of her body trying to heal.

Yes, symptoms are really just signposts that help show us that there is an internal imbalance. All symptoms are clues and are good things in the bigger picture of wellness, quality of life and inner balance.

Symptoms are a reflection of energy flow in the body. The smoother the flow, the fewer the abnormal symptoms.

Love helps smooth the flow and increases mitochondrial metabolism and cellular energy production.

Fear, worry, anxiety, etc. do just the opposite.

Adopting a loving and re-growth mindset is super important. 😍 😻

But this can be especially difficult when we are thrust into a fixed mindset and worry about symptoms, dis-eases (imbalances) and diagnoses.
Fascinating! Thank you. Yes, love is such a wonderful & powerful thing ❤️
 

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