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Having a hard time engaging my cat in play and activity

SiriE

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Hi!
I already made a post with questions about my Finn under another subject, but I thought this was a different subject so here's another post.
Finn is 10yo,male,neutered,standard Norwegian house cat breed, 6,5kg, beam: seems sad and bored, but has bursts of energy. Seems sader and less interested after both a change to weight loss food (what my other post is about) and a weather change to full on snowy winter. Animal shelter foster cat, been with me since June, diagnosed with FHS, on no medication, allowed outside.

My main concern is that he seems bored and sad. Ever since he came here to me he has seemed a bit overwhelmed by play. If I use regular such as stick toys or balls he seems either uninterested or overwhelmed/scared. He might awsken his chasing instinct, but when engaging with the toy he gets scared and often walk away to sit further away or in a corner, as if he is scared. During the summer he was outside quite a bit. He didn't jump around for hours but enjoyed some walking about and rested a lot out in the fresh air. As the colder weather crept in during the fall he was more and more idle and less and less outside. Now he only goes outside for about 5-10 minutes to sit or pee/poo, and spends all day resting/sleeping but he seems sad. I don't know how to activate/connect/play/engage with him in a way that he is interested, but not overwhelmed. I suspect he has not been played with a lot in his life, but his FHS might also play a role. If he gets overwhelmed/scared/stressed by a toy he sometimes just ends up cleaning himself in a stressed way like a FHS symptom. Not for long though, but for me it's a sign of some imbalance. I really want to engage with him and connect, but I don't know how. We are also having a really hard time with food for him because ne needs to lose weight, but the weight loss food from the vet seems to have triggered something in him, because although weather also changed he was very frustrated with the kibble wight loss food and it seems to have made him more symptomatic although it's hard to say. But this is what I'm addressing in the other post. This post is more to do with how can I best play and engage with him now that he doesn't want to be outside and also gets easily scared and overwhelmed or is simply uninterested in standard stick toys? Thank you so much❤️

@Dr. Christina @Dr. Barbara
 
Hi Siri!

Thanks for asking such an important question. It's a question that we all want an answer to (how to play most effectively)...
I don't know how to activate/connect/play/engage with him in a way that he is interested, but not overwhelmed.
Please remind me how long you've had him? And what his life was like before you adopted him.

Regarding his playing at this time, the answer lies in what he has loved to do in the past.

As mentioned in the other post, his FHS symptoms are related to his obesity. Obesity also decreases his play.

It's probably getting pretty dark and chilly there. And I wonder if this is part of his starting to "hunker down" for winter.

Have you found any treats that he loves?
 
Hi Siri!

Thanks for asking such an important question. It's a question that we all want an answer to (how to play most effectively)...

Please remind me how long you've had him? And what his life was like before you adopted him.

Regarding his playing at this time, the answer lies in what he has loved to do in the past.

As mentioned in the other post, his FHS are related to his obesity. And this is the case as well with his play.

It's probably getting pretty dark and chilly there. And I wonder if this is part of his starting to "hunker down" for winter.

Have you found any treats that he loves?
Sorry, didn’t see your reply!

Thank you so much for getting back to me about this as it is still a challenge.

He has been with me since June. Before that he had been with Animal Rescue Services so we don’t know much about his life other than he is 10yo and he was abandoned by his previous owners when they moved and didn’t take him with them, so he was roaming outside for about a year when Animal Rescue took him in in early June. Then he came to me after a few weeks. So I don’t know what he loved in the past. He did enjoy being outside a bit in the late summer, but now we have winter eith snow and frost and minus degrees so he doesn’t like bring outside now. I assume his FHS feels worse when it’s cold cos he loves resting on my heated bathroom floor.

I think you’re definitely right in the hunkering down for winter, and in the morning he rests and loves it. But in the afternoon he gets restless and starts seeking attention and for something to happen and seems very bored when it doesn’t. I have chronic fatigue syndrome myself so I can’t really play actively with him a whole lot. But the most frustrating is that he seems very bored, but not especially interested in toys. I’ve found a shoe lace he likes, but if we play for 15 mins and stops he still seems a bit frustrated again after a very short while.

I have considered whether he could need a play mate, but I’m not able to have two cats.

Onthe obesity note I should mention he wasn’t overweight when he came here to me, but he still had the FHS. (He wasn’t underweight either, which is a bit strange after all year of roaming.) I talked to a psychic/animal communicator and she said he had had this condition since very young, but obviously I can’t guarantee she’s right. I saw the symptoms when he came to me in June and reported it and then he got diagnosed. The weight gain happened simultaneously and afterwards as the instruction was to give him free access to kibble and he was stress eating. Now he’s still gaining a little even on limited raw meat diet, which is weird, but I adressed this in the other post so currently waiting to see if it stabilises. But it doesn’t help that he’s very idle. With the shoe lace I’ve been able to hold his attention with it about 15 mins twice per day although he doesn’t necessarily run around after it. He still seems bored and frustrated most of the evening. What’s weird is that when I go with the trash outside and I leave the door open and he follows me he runs like a phantom back to the house on the return. So he definitely has the speed and energy somewhere, I just can’t access it in any other situation and he follows me only once, I checked, haha.

He loves pretty much all food, but I can’t give him a whole lot of treats with his obesity 🫣

@Dr. Jeff
 
starts seeking attention and for something to happen and seems very bored when it doesn’t
Perhaps you can make it happen! An extra cuddle, softly calling or even a playful foot stomp in his direction.

He loves pretty much all food
Yes!! :snowman: 😻:snowman:

Give his "meals" in the form of exercise motivators. Use freeze-dried raw meat snacks (like from Small Batch) to play the hunt for treats game.

Start out by drawing his attention to the treats in your hand. And then let him watch as you scatter the treats. And hopefully he will then hunt, sniff, gather and eat the treats.
 
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